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dukeboy Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 2612 Location: At the still
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: Well? Is this gonna be the end? |
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How many of you here in THE STATES, are gonna start selling off all your "Gas guzzlers", to get into some other kind of hobby?
Just wondering how many will stick it out, and how many will sell off and get out....IS Hot rodding over? Fuel has NEVER been more expensive in the states, where hot rodding is REALLY a way of life...
Are the V8's days numbered in favor of a V6? 4 cyl.?
Is the very back bone of hot rodding gonna be a footnote in the legacy of Hot rodding?
Will the 350 SBC's and the 426 HEMI's, be sold off for peanuts to get rid of overstock, never to ever return?
Just wondering how many are thinking bout this like I am..(Worrying)...  |
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57plymouth Rank: Sport Suburban

Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 470 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: |
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I'm not getting out, but I'm thinning the herd.
With three old cars now, I really want to get rid of the truck. I want to keep just my 57 and Angie's RS/SS Camaro. Those are the two we really love.
I'm not jumping out of the hobby. But I must admit that I have not driven the old cars in about a month.
_________________ Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit
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Eddie Elvis Rank: Fury Sport Coupe

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 2139 Location: The most corrupt, congested and taxed state in the union.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Not yet Chaney, we have been driving a whole lot less and economizing everywhere to cut costs.
In a way, I understand the depression era generation . You've got to do what you've got to do to survive. |
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ArcticRainWulf Rank: Sport Suburban

Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 467 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: |
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How about a Diesel Plymouth ?  |
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Eddie Elvis Rank: Fury Sport Coupe

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 2139 Location: The most corrupt, congested and taxed state in the union.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| ArcticRainWulf wrote: | How about a Diesel Plymouth ?  |
I have read about them in Cuba. |
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big m Christine Car Club Vice President

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 1558 Location: Williams, Ca.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| The casual car collectors will most likely leave the hobby, but for those that are lifetime car nuts and hobbyists it won't happen. If it means putting food on the table or going to a cruise-in, the food will always come first, but it won't neccessarily mean the car will be sold. ---John
_________________ I drive a hybrid Fury
...It burns gas and tires!
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58Donnie Christine Car Club President

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3821 Location: Hancock Co TN.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hot Rodding and American cars have survived worse around 73/74. When you look at the way gas went up then and compare the rate of inflation for the time to today it's not that much different.
People were then giving away there muscle cars in favor of pinto's and mustang II's then but even with rising prices those same give away cars came back.
We American are a hard headed bunch. While we as collectors, builders, hobbyists' are the minority in the automotive world we will once again stan the test of time and change. |
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SavoyPlaza Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 612 Location: Joor-Juh
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58_440_sixpack Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Sunny County Durham, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Hopefully most people will do the same as we've had to since the gas has gone through the roof - if you love your car enough you'll sacrifice other things for it. I 've had to cut down on drinking, don't smoke (never did but certainly couldn't afford to start), drive a ten year old daily and haven't had a foreign holiday for as long as I can remember. But - my car's progressing after three years of inactivity, so all the above's well worth it. |
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59CRL Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 450 Location: Vine Grove, KY
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Well? Is this gonna be the end? |
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Im not selling my ride.... as much as I hate paying $4 plus a gallon I can afford the local car shows and cruise in's I goto.... as for new production cars the V-8's days are numbered.....the high gas will kill off the new Challenger and Camaro..... extremely bad timing for those 2 cars..... Im into the old cars and will never change to a different hobby....._________________
59 Custom Royal Lancer, Dual exhaust with flowmasters, custom paint, wheels, chromed out engine |
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lawrence Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 2262 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Jackrabbit28 Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 685 Location: Imperial Beach, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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My Plymouth stays....even if it is doomed to stay put!!!
I'd rather build an LCD projector mock up "drive-in theater" in my garage and watch movies from the car than sell her. 20+years of wanting and dreaming will not be killed by expensive gas. It's more than having a movie car, I appreciate the history of old cars. I've been around old cars and old car shows long before I had short curlies. Gas prices won't endanger my Belvy, but my F150 might get a little lonely soon.
_________________ To restore a Ford, you need Chevy running gear.
To restore a Chevy, you only need a catalog.
To restore a PLYMOUTH, you only need a dream and a great car club!!!
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59CaddyHog Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 1712 Location: Sunny County Durham, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I've done 1000 miles in my SRT-10 already and realistically
it costs me $1 a mile.
This is actually better than what my '59 Caddy coupe acheived so it is ok.
It is the most un-green car available so I love it.
I still like red meat  |
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badboykurza Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 1260 Location: Geelong, Vic AUSTRALIA
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SavoyPlaza Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 612 Location: Joor-Juh
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, Gen. Grant, the cars themselves are endangered here, as scrap prices are at an all time high. I can't bring myself to drive by the crusher now, seeing what's lined up to go. Unless demand takes a really sharp curve, supply seems to be dwindling, meaning ultimately higher prices.
Pete
_________________ Motor down to T-town.
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58Donnie Christine Car Club President

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3821 Location: Hancock Co TN.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| lawrence wrote: | Those cars were sold over a year ago. Some people have some money AND know how to have a good time. Look at Donnie's shop. That dude has money falling out of his ass.  |
But itonly nickle's and dime's
My wife and I have just played a good hand at our bill's and had some lucky breaks like the price we bought our place for.
We drive an 87 Saab to work (35 mpg) with 220,000 miles on it. My truck is a rusty 91 F-250 that usedto be a Jersey snow plow.
But I got my Christine and I'm keeping her I may even build myself another monster of some sort as soon as she is re-done. |
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Eddie Elvis Rank: Fury Sport Coupe

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 2139 Location: The most corrupt, congested and taxed state in the union.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Did you touch-up your Christine since the fire? |
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58Donnie Christine Car Club President

Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3821 Location: Hancock Co TN.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Nah, I'm pretty much gonna re-do the whole car. There was some things abou her that I wasn't happy with that need it. I was on a real tight budget with her andI cut a few corners that I shoudn't have. |
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Eddie Elvis Rank: Fury Sport Coupe

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 2139 Location: The most corrupt, congested and taxed state in the union.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Only you and God know where they are.... (imperfections)
Getting back on the thread, my wife's Corolla 10 years old/ 187K /30-35 mpg, original drivetrain. |
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big m Christine Car Club Vice President

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 1558 Location: Williams, Ca.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| SavoyPlaza wrote: | Unfortunately, Gen. Grant, the cars themselves are endangered here, as scrap prices are at an all time high. I can't bring myself to drive by the crusher now, seeing what's lined up to go. Unless demand takes a really sharp curve, supply seems to be dwindling, meaning ultimately higher prices.
Pete |
You're not kidding, Pete. The place I bought the Buicks [and some other cars] from called me asking if I wanted any of the cars, as he was going to crush everything on his lot. #2 scrap [car bodies] is bringing close to $400/ton at the port of Oakland, so a 2-ton car brings $800.00! We see scrap hauling rigs going down the freeway on a regular basis, the local ranchers are having scrappers come in and cut up old farm equipment, cars, anything of steel! I have even seen some old dumps get dug out in order to cash in on steel items buried there. We've even got Mexican guys driving around in old pickup trucks asking if you want to sell your scrap metal, and they are making good money at it, despite high fuel prices.
You've got to admit though, sometimes it's awfully tempting for folks to sell their car directly to a scrapper, they can get close to the same price and not have to deal with tire kickers and lowballers. Parts cars have now become an endangered species, so if anyone here has been eyeballing a car out in a field or in a barn, the time is now to act on it, because the scrap guys are closing in.
If I was so inclined, I could get $500,000 or more if I was to scrap these old cars and equipment, but what the hell would I do after that? ---John
_________________ I drive a hybrid Fury
...It burns gas and tires!
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dukeboy Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 2612 Location: At the still
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Not to mention the would be Tee Totally pissed off folks, that rely on your yard For those Parts cars John......Hell, if Big M went under, we'd be up SH*T creek fast!
Thank god for Big M auto.... |
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big m Christine Car Club Vice President

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 1558 Location: Williams, Ca.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks, Chaney, it's statements like yours that keep the fire lit under me. Some folks think it's all fun and games, but in reality, there is a lot to do. All levels of government are constantly making it harder to run a dismantling business. ---John
_________________ I drive a hybrid Fury
...It burns gas and tires!
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dukeboy Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 2612 Location: At the still
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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ESPECIALLY the SPECIALTY CAR DISMANTLER, as you aren't selling Newer cars........
Round here in VA, if you got a "Grandfather'd" Auto dismantler yard, you give up that license, you don't get another one EVER!
The EPA has cracked down so hard, that NO NEW YARDS here....
I was so sad to see the one that I bought my last 4dr from go under, but the lady(Widow), ask'd if anybody wanted it for one lump sum, NOBODY offered...OH, they all bitched that it was going out of business, but nobody wanted to buy it....ALOT of good cars went to the crusher....Like 200 Cars..... |
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DVjohn Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 57 Location: Alberta Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I might not drive it as much as I'd like but
I'll never sell my car.
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evil57 Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 459 Location: martinsburg pa
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| i'm not selling any of mine. hell i just got another project the other day. a 34 plymouth coupe. i will have pics up in a couple days. if people want to sell them . i will be there to get them and stash them til people want them again . then i'll make a couple bucks selling them back .
_________________ CHRISTINE , Body by Plymouth, Soul by Satan.
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djMikulec Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 625 Location: The Land Of Confusion
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Sell her? Shoot, I'm just getting started. Heck, thanks to my buddy Pete, I'm now constantly broke.
But, she ain't gonna be your granddad's sedan.
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savoyboy Rank:Deluxe Suburban
Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1 Location: central ohio
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I drive it less but sell it? I don't care how high gas is, I will still drive my plymouth, just a little less often. One thing I am considering is de tuning it a little and putting her back stock. That 301 2 barrel actually got pretty good mileage before I put a cam and 4 barrel on it!
And I am about to buy a honda fit for my daily driver. It's my work truck thats killin me but I have no choice. I pay a grand a month for fuel and that has really eaten into profits. But with new housing the way it is I can't complain too much, there are plenty of Mexicans who are willing to do my job for less pay.
Not a good time to be a construction guy...
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Eddie Elvis Rank: Fury Sport Coupe

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 2139 Location: The most corrupt, congested and taxed state in the union.
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| dukeboy wrote: | ESPECIALLY the SPECIALTY CAR DISMANTLER, as you aren't selling Newer cars........
Round here in VA, if you got a "Grandfather'd" Auto dismantler yard, you give up that license, you don't get another one EVER!
The EPA has cracked down so hard, that NO NEW YARDS here....
I was so sad to see the one that I bought my last 4dr from go under, but the lady(Widow), ask'd if anybody wanted it for one lump sum, NOBODY offered...OH, they all bitched that it was going out of business, but nobody wanted to buy it....ALOT of good cars went to the crusher....Like 200 Cars..... |
You give a good example of how the EPA will crack down on salvage yards, yet allow large corporations continue to pollute in outrageous degrees by giving them pollution credits by enticeing car owners to junk there cars for $700.00 (Calif) so they can continue their own dirty work. |
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Tnuts Rank:Deluxe Suburban
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I am not bending over to these ridiculous gas prices. I would rather push my 58 Belvedere than drive a Toyota Prius which is nothing but a glorified 70's Ford Pinto.
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59CRL Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 450 Location: Vine Grove, KY
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Tnuts wrote: | | I am not bending over to these ridiculous gas prices. I would rather push my 58 Belvedere than drive a Toyota Prius which is nothing but a glorified 70's Ford Pinto. |
Good point.... there are good american cars out there that get good gas mileage.... im going with an Intrepid now. Just have to cut down on my running around....._________________
59 Custom Royal Lancer, Dual exhaust with flowmasters, custom paint, wheels, chromed out engine |
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59CaddyHog Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 1712 Location: Sunny County Durham, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I filled the SRT to the brim last week and squeezed £104 ($208) into the tank and it wasn't empty.
Some of the guys I know are building 4 cylinder rods as the answer.
That seems like having sex with a johnny on to me.
LPG seems to be the answer over here but at $6000 to convert the SRT, it won't be my answer.
A do it yourself LPG carb kit is available for around £800 for the older cars.
However, no matter how it goes...... I still won't be buying a 1 litre Diesel anytime soon. |
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Eddie Elvis Rank: Fury Sport Coupe

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Diesel is the way to go here in Deutschland.  |
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AudioMobil Christine Car Club Member

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 837 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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During the last months, Diesel fuel has become expensive too!
Sometimes it's even more expensive than regular gas... |
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Eddie Elvis Rank: Fury Sport Coupe

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| AudioMobil wrote: | During the last months, Diesel fuel has become expensive too!
Sometimes it's even more expensive than regular gas... |
A few years back, that was the case herre in the US, however, our greedy oil conglomerates saw when to guoge us when they saw consumption rising. |
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